WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.376 [MUSIC PLAYING] Bum, bum, bum, yum, ba-ba bum 00:00:04.376 --> 00:00:09.800 Bum, yum, bum, ba-ba ba-ba yum ba-ba bum, bum 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:11.720 NARRATOR: Voice division works with survivors 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:14.930 of human atrocities to create works of art that 00:00:14.930 --> 00:00:17.810 memorialize their experience. 00:00:17.810 --> 00:00:20.310 This segment features two survivors, 00:00:20.310 --> 00:00:25.040 one child of a survivor and one grandchild of a survivor. 00:00:25.040 --> 00:00:27.810 Each participant worked on her own piece, 00:00:27.810 --> 00:00:32.270 and they got together to work on a collaborative piece. 00:00:32.270 --> 00:00:34.430 One of the goals of voice division 00:00:34.430 --> 00:00:38.720 is to use a survivor's artwork to engage an audience 00:00:38.720 --> 00:00:41.540 in a dialogue about human atrocities, 00:00:41.540 --> 00:00:45.710 a subject far removed from most Americans lives. 00:00:45.710 --> 00:00:48.020 The visual language used in the art 00:00:48.020 --> 00:00:51.830 speaks to people in a very different way than words do. 00:00:51.830 --> 00:00:54.050 Visual language can provoke people 00:00:54.050 --> 00:00:56.330 to reflect more deeply on a subject, 00:00:56.330 --> 00:00:59.460 and to recall their own experiences of injustice 00:00:59.460 --> 00:01:01.860 no matter how large or small. 00:01:01.860 --> 00:01:04.110 When this happens, an audience is 00:01:04.110 --> 00:01:06.660 better able to understand and relate 00:01:06.660 --> 00:01:09.150 to the survivor's experience. 00:01:09.150 --> 00:01:12.760 The historical event, once distant and removed, 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.542 now becomes a part of their lives. 00:01:14.542 --> 00:01:17.374 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:01:26.910 --> 00:01:28.560 Daliya's mother lived in the Sudan 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.320 during that country's bloody Civil War. 00:01:31.320 --> 00:01:33.580 When she was seven months pregnant with Daliya, 00:01:33.580 --> 00:01:36.150 some soldiers raided her village. 00:01:36.150 --> 00:01:39.310 As she fled, a group of militia stopped her, 00:01:39.310 --> 00:01:41.160 intending to shoot her. 00:01:41.160 --> 00:01:43.530 Her life was spared when one of the soldiers 00:01:43.530 --> 00:01:47.400 recognized her as a childhood friend. 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:50.640 DALIYA JOKONDO: I picked this telephone because growing up, 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.320 we didn't have a phone in our house, 00:01:53.320 --> 00:01:55.398 so if you had to make any phone calls, 00:01:55.398 --> 00:01:57.690 you had to use the phone booth that was down the street 00:01:57.690 --> 00:02:00.250 and you had to use special phone cards, 00:02:00.250 --> 00:02:03.420 and these phone calls were always so important because they 00:02:03.420 --> 00:02:05.377 would go on for an hour or two and all 00:02:05.377 --> 00:02:06.960 the family would gather around and you 00:02:06.960 --> 00:02:09.880 try to listen and hear from different members back home. 00:02:09.880 --> 00:02:12.180 And every phone call was always a little terrifying 00:02:12.180 --> 00:02:14.587 because somebody could be dead. 00:02:14.587 --> 00:02:16.170 I just remember a lot of people always 00:02:16.170 --> 00:02:18.330 whenever the phone call came, there would always 00:02:18.330 --> 00:02:19.930 be like another person dead. 00:02:19.930 --> 00:02:22.500 And it used to really saddened me 00:02:22.500 --> 00:02:24.610 because when we got out of Sudan, 00:02:24.610 --> 00:02:28.260 it was only me, my mom, and my siblings and my dad 00:02:28.260 --> 00:02:31.350 and I never got to meet any of my cousins 00:02:31.350 --> 00:02:34.360 or my aunts or my grandma or anything. 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.870 So I always wanted to have the experience 00:02:36.870 --> 00:02:38.080 of having an extended family. 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:39.790 So whenever I got these phone calls, 00:02:39.790 --> 00:02:42.700 I would get so sad because it's like, oh, well, 00:02:42.700 --> 00:02:45.370 another person dead now, I never get the chance to see them. 00:02:45.370 --> 00:02:48.870 And actually, last summer we got another phone call and I 00:02:48.870 --> 00:02:52.420 had that same weird feeling that I used to have as a kid, 00:02:52.420 --> 00:02:55.120 and my grandmother had passed away. 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.670 So 00:02:56.670 --> 00:02:59.640 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:03:01.620 --> 00:03:05.260 NARRATOR: Dragana was born in a small town in Northern Bosnia, 00:03:05.260 --> 00:03:08.460 and was 10 years old when war broke out in her country 00:03:08.460 --> 00:03:10.620 in the early 1990s. 00:03:10.620 --> 00:03:12.750 Near the end of the conflict, her family 00:03:12.750 --> 00:03:16.780 was forced to flee their home along with thousands of others. 00:03:16.780 --> 00:03:20.640 When news spread that the Croatian army had launched 00:03:20.640 --> 00:03:24.540 a large scale military attack on towns and villages 00:03:24.540 --> 00:03:26.460 in the region. 00:03:26.460 --> 00:03:31.140 DRAGANA VIDOVIC: I picked this little cart. 00:03:31.140 --> 00:03:33.420 It kind of reminded me of a time when 00:03:33.420 --> 00:03:36.700 I had to leave my town in September 1995. 00:03:36.700 --> 00:03:38.230 My town is in Northern Bosnia. 00:03:38.230 --> 00:03:41.080 I just couldn't believe that I had to leave. 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:44.332 My father was in the army in war and lots of our men 00:03:44.332 --> 00:03:45.040 were in the army. 00:03:45.040 --> 00:03:46.840 So it's mostly women and kids. 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:48.630 And when we heard the news that we 00:03:48.630 --> 00:03:53.910 have to run away, that army will attack us, 00:03:53.910 --> 00:03:56.420 we kind of didn't know how to organize ourselves, 00:03:56.420 --> 00:03:58.840 didn't want to leave, and one of my neighbors 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.950 decided to organize over 50 houses or families. 00:04:02.950 --> 00:04:05.240 For those of us who didn't have a car, 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.120 she packed us in these little carts 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:09.530 and hooked that, hooked it up to the tractor. 00:04:09.530 --> 00:04:12.890 So she had two of those behind her and a tractor. 00:04:12.890 --> 00:04:14.780 I was in the cart with her. 00:04:14.780 --> 00:04:19.339 So we were in this big traffic jam for two or three days, 00:04:19.339 --> 00:04:21.013 traveling to another city. 00:04:21.013 --> 00:04:22.930 I really didn't want to leave because I wanted 00:04:22.930 --> 00:04:25.460 to wait for my dad, because I didn't know where he was, 00:04:25.460 --> 00:04:30.380 and he was like in another town in a fighting zone. 00:04:30.380 --> 00:04:35.110 And a day or two days after enemy army 00:04:35.110 --> 00:04:37.970 came in and killed whoever stayed. 00:04:37.970 --> 00:04:42.680 So I always grant this woman her name is Mara. 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:45.980 I always say that she saved our lives. 00:04:45.980 --> 00:04:48.980 She saved the life of my whole village. 00:04:48.980 --> 00:04:51.650 And she's really tough boss like Lady. 00:04:51.650 --> 00:04:54.500 And lots of people disagree with her. 00:04:54.500 --> 00:04:56.950 She runs a business now in town, and lots of people 00:04:56.950 --> 00:04:57.740 disagree with her. 00:04:57.740 --> 00:05:02.860 But I think people forget to mention and thank her 00:05:02.860 --> 00:05:05.200 that she was the one who organized all of us, who 00:05:05.200 --> 00:05:09.795 saved our lives, and I will always be thankful to her. 00:05:09.795 --> 00:05:12.040 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.470 NARRATOR: During World War 2, Laura Zelle's 00:05:14.470 --> 00:05:17.440 Jewish Greek grandfather, was rounded up in Athens 00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:22.120 and transported to Auschwitz, where he died in a crematorium. 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:24.130 Laura's grandmother remained behind 00:05:24.130 --> 00:05:27.380 in Athens, where she managed to keep all of her children, 00:05:27.380 --> 00:05:31.150 including Laura's mother, in hiding in Athens 00:05:31.150 --> 00:05:33.890 during the Nazi occupation of Greece. 00:05:33.890 --> 00:05:39.350 LAURA ZELLE: This reminds me of a white tablecloth. 00:05:39.350 --> 00:05:44.300 In Greece, the women would embroider linens, pillowcases, 00:05:44.300 --> 00:05:45.850 sheets, tablecloths. 00:05:45.850 --> 00:05:50.170 And it was for the daughter their daughter's dowry when 00:05:50.170 --> 00:05:52.690 the little girl got married. 00:05:52.690 --> 00:05:57.370 And we have-- one of the only things that my family has 00:05:57.370 --> 00:06:01.400 is maybe a couple pillowcases and a tablecloth-- 00:06:01.400 --> 00:06:04.220 a white tablecloth that my grandmother worked on. 00:06:04.220 --> 00:06:06.670 And I've always felt connected to that 00:06:06.670 --> 00:06:10.550 because it was her hands working this tablecloth. 00:06:10.550 --> 00:06:15.920 And actually, years later, I was married under the tablecloth. 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.230 We used it as a chuppah at my wedding, 00:06:18.230 --> 00:06:21.400 and my cousin has also used it. 00:06:21.400 --> 00:06:24.020 A chuppah in Judaism, when you get married, 00:06:24.020 --> 00:06:28.210 you are married under a cloth, some sort of shelter 00:06:28.210 --> 00:06:29.660 with no walls. 00:06:29.660 --> 00:06:32.110 This is what my husband and I were married under, 00:06:32.110 --> 00:06:33.880 was my grandma's tablecloth. 00:06:33.880 --> 00:06:39.500 My grandma, she is the surviving parent of my mom's family, 00:06:39.500 --> 00:06:42.640 and she brought five kids to America 00:06:42.640 --> 00:06:49.640 after her husband and her sister and two of her brothers, 00:06:49.640 --> 00:06:53.240 and a nephew and niece and other extended families 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.600 were taken to Auschwitz from Athens. 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:01.040 And died in the crematorium, and she was-- 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.120 went back into hiding with the little kids. 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:07.160 And so she was the survivor to bring everybody to America. 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.478 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:07:11.900 --> 00:07:13.880 NARRATOR: Joanna Sussman's Jewish parents 00:07:13.880 --> 00:07:16.190 were imprisoned in a Nazi concentration camp 00:07:16.190 --> 00:07:18.110 during World War II. 00:07:18.110 --> 00:07:20.510 Joanna's father was liberated by the Americans 00:07:20.510 --> 00:07:23.390 and later emigrated to the United States. 00:07:23.390 --> 00:07:29.120 During the 1960s, he served as a witness at the Nuremberg trials. 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.220 JOANNA SUSSMAN: The first is this little pair 00:07:31.220 --> 00:07:33.630 of glasses, which are from the Mr. Potato Head 00:07:33.630 --> 00:07:36.750 but stand in for the eyeglasses of real people. 00:07:36.750 --> 00:07:39.810 When the Jews were taken to the concentration camps, 00:07:39.810 --> 00:07:43.800 and from there to the gas chambers and crematoria, 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.440 they were stripped of everything that they owned, 00:07:46.440 --> 00:07:49.530 all of their clothes, everything, including, 00:07:49.530 --> 00:07:51.030 of course, their eyeglasses. 00:07:51.030 --> 00:07:53.630 And my uncle was one of the people who lost 00:07:53.630 --> 00:07:55.200 his eyeglasses at that time. 00:07:55.200 --> 00:07:57.000 And he was very nearsighted. 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.480 And he lived through the next several years 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.010 unable to see the world clearly. 00:08:02.010 --> 00:08:06.280 And that could be both a good thing and a bad thing. 00:08:06.280 --> 00:08:09.120 He could literally not see the world clearly. 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.910 But, of course, metaphorically, living 00:08:10.910 --> 00:08:13.470 in this crazy world of the Holocaust, 00:08:13.470 --> 00:08:17.730 he couldn't see what was going on in the real world either. 00:08:17.730 --> 00:08:20.150 And it was like living in an alternate universe, which 00:08:20.150 --> 00:08:23.540 is kind of what he always said. 00:08:23.540 --> 00:08:25.190 DALIYA JOKONDO: So I picked this thing 00:08:25.190 --> 00:08:28.700 here first that looks kind of like a machine gun mounted 00:08:28.700 --> 00:08:30.450 on something. 00:08:30.450 --> 00:08:32.390 I used to have these nightmares growing up 00:08:32.390 --> 00:08:39.049 about how I was with my mother when she was almost shot back 00:08:39.049 --> 00:08:40.620 when she was still in Sudan. 00:08:40.620 --> 00:08:44.159 And years later, I realized that when this incident took place, 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.350 I was-- she was still pregnant with me. 00:08:46.350 --> 00:08:47.610 So I was still in the womb. 00:08:47.610 --> 00:08:51.580 But I had all these dreams that felt like I was actually there. 00:08:51.580 --> 00:08:54.120 Growing up, I developed this like just this fear 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:55.825 of different scenes in movies. 00:08:55.825 --> 00:08:57.450 Like, I'll be watching a movie and they 00:08:57.450 --> 00:08:59.310 would have a scene where a bunch of men 00:08:59.310 --> 00:09:00.977 are like pulling out a gun or something, 00:09:00.977 --> 00:09:03.060 and I would just get really physically 00:09:03.060 --> 00:09:06.450 uncomfortable and frightened for no reason. 00:09:06.450 --> 00:09:08.700 So this is why I picked this. 00:09:08.700 --> 00:09:11.310 And I also it was interesting because years legs are one 00:09:11.310 --> 00:09:14.140 after her again to tell me the story, and she was like, 00:09:14.140 --> 00:09:15.550 oh, you weren't born yet. 00:09:15.550 --> 00:09:19.350 And I'm like, well, but then I remember the details. 00:09:19.350 --> 00:09:22.710 So I don't know if she ever told me the story, when I was younger 00:09:22.710 --> 00:09:24.460 and then she just forgot about it or what, 00:09:24.460 --> 00:09:26.675 but the memories just in my mind. 00:09:29.310 --> 00:09:32.770 JOANNA SUSSMAN: This I picked up because it's a superhero. 00:09:32.770 --> 00:09:34.630 I picked the superhero because to me, 00:09:34.630 --> 00:09:37.060 my parents were superheroes. 00:09:37.060 --> 00:09:39.930 I have never been able to really figure out 00:09:39.930 --> 00:09:43.230 how they could go from the darkness of the Holocaust 00:09:43.230 --> 00:09:46.690 into a whole new life here in the United States, 00:09:46.690 --> 00:09:50.250 start a New family after everything that they had lost, 00:09:50.250 --> 00:09:54.180 and continue to be human beings, having come from a world 00:09:54.180 --> 00:09:58.740 where so many people didn't behave as human beings. 00:09:58.740 --> 00:10:01.650 LAURA ZELLE: Well, these blue beads reminded me 00:10:01.650 --> 00:10:07.990 of my uncle's worry beads, and my uncle was my mom's brother, 00:10:07.990 --> 00:10:14.760 and he was really the unsung hero of her surviving the war. 00:10:14.760 --> 00:10:19.650 He was 15 at the time and saw the roundup that 00:10:19.650 --> 00:10:23.320 happened in Greece where my grandfather was taken, 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:28.300 and he was the one that kind guided the kids. 00:10:28.300 --> 00:10:31.500 There were four girls and took a pushcart 00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:34.750 and went back into the hiding spot. 00:10:34.750 --> 00:10:37.960 Worry beads in Greece, men use them. 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.350 They wrap them in between their fingers, 00:10:41.350 --> 00:10:43.907 and it's kind of like a nervous energy thing, I don't know-- 00:10:43.907 --> 00:10:46.240 and they actually sit there and they twirl them through. 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.200 I can't do it. 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:49.450 First of all, this isn't tied. 00:10:49.450 --> 00:10:53.100 But when my uncle passed away, he 00:10:53.100 --> 00:10:55.840 left me his worry beads in their cobalt blue. 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:58.590 So this very much reminded me of those 00:10:58.590 --> 00:11:01.590 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.180 DRAGANA VIDOVIC: Oh, wow. 00:11:15.180 --> 00:11:17.490 This is awesome. 00:11:17.490 --> 00:11:20.220 So I always kind of thought of all these monuments 00:11:20.220 --> 00:11:21.820 from World War II or World War I, 00:11:21.820 --> 00:11:25.390 or what our people or grandparents, 00:11:25.390 --> 00:11:27.520 parents went through, through all these wars, 00:11:27.520 --> 00:11:31.360 because one started in, as you know, in Bosnia. 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.430 This is the monument from World War II of a woman who 00:11:35.430 --> 00:11:37.380 was hanged by Germans. 00:11:37.380 --> 00:11:38.880 And there were several of those when 00:11:38.880 --> 00:11:40.547 they would catch the-- because there was 00:11:40.547 --> 00:11:42.330 lots of resistance in Bosnia. 00:11:42.330 --> 00:11:45.080 The time when I realized that war is actually 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:49.500 happening in my country is when my neighbor died in war. 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:54.030 I just saw him that week before he left for fighting, 00:11:54.030 --> 00:11:59.190 and I gave him some pears, and we just talked and he left, 00:11:59.190 --> 00:12:00.480 and then he never came back. 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.840 And that was kind of a realization for me 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:06.680 that war, is it's real. 00:12:06.680 --> 00:12:08.750 Soccer ball represents the happy time 00:12:08.750 --> 00:12:11.250 where you could go anywhere. 00:12:11.250 --> 00:12:13.792 You were so free in ex-Yugoslavia, 00:12:13.792 --> 00:12:15.500 you could have slept in a park and nobody 00:12:15.500 --> 00:12:16.920 would do anything to you. 00:12:16.920 --> 00:12:22.010 So it was such almost crime free country. 00:12:22.010 --> 00:12:24.155 And it's not like that now. 00:12:24.155 --> 00:12:28.350 [CHUCKLES] And then there is a picture of my grandma over here. 00:12:28.350 --> 00:12:29.880 She's my favorite lady. 00:12:29.880 --> 00:12:32.960 She's kind of kept the family going through all this 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:33.570 through war. 00:12:33.570 --> 00:12:38.305 And she was the big provider when my dad went to Army. 00:12:38.305 --> 00:12:41.070 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:12:48.370 --> 00:12:50.260 MAN: There you go. 00:12:50.260 --> 00:12:51.476 All the way over. 00:12:55.968 --> 00:12:57.343 JOANNA SUSSMAN: That's beautiful. 00:12:57.343 --> 00:13:01.720 [CHUCKLES] I remember that I drew 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.620 that sort of white triangular building 00:13:05.620 --> 00:13:09.080 back there that has three lines in it, 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:12.790 and that was because I had seen Laura draw the Parthenon up 00:13:12.790 --> 00:13:13.820 in the corner. 00:13:13.820 --> 00:13:16.700 And her story is a Greek story, as we all know. 00:13:16.700 --> 00:13:18.730 And I drew what I thought was more 00:13:18.730 --> 00:13:21.580 like the Supreme Court, which mirrored 00:13:21.580 --> 00:13:24.550 the image of the Parthenon and stood 00:13:24.550 --> 00:13:26.960 for justice and righteousness. 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:29.830 And I thought it was just a really interesting image 00:13:29.830 --> 00:13:32.080 about how the world ought to be. 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:36.470 The Hebrew word hayyim is the word for life. 00:13:36.470 --> 00:13:40.850 And then I remember that little square with the German on it 00:13:40.850 --> 00:13:46.460 that says, "Den toten zur ehr den lebenden zur mahnung" 00:13:46.460 --> 00:13:51.260 for the loosely translated means to memorialize the dead 00:13:51.260 --> 00:13:52.890 and remember the living. 00:13:52.890 --> 00:13:54.740 Something like that. 00:13:54.740 --> 00:13:58.830 And that is from a Memorial at Dachau concentration camp, 00:13:58.830 --> 00:14:01.920 where my dad was imprisoned during the war. 00:14:01.920 --> 00:14:04.220 And when we went back as a family 00:14:04.220 --> 00:14:06.720 to visit Dachau when I was a teenager, 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.030 and I saw that Memorial plaque. 00:14:09.030 --> 00:14:11.480 So that's something that really resonated for me. 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:14.760 The one other image that I think is really important is the tree. 00:14:14.760 --> 00:14:16.980 And we have two tree images in there. 00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:20.010 We have the stump at the bottom, which, as I said in purple, 00:14:20.010 --> 00:14:21.330 is really dramatic. 00:14:21.330 --> 00:14:23.360 And the symbol of the Jewish community 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.430 after the war of the survivor community 00:14:25.430 --> 00:14:29.400 is a tree stump with all its branches cut off. 00:14:29.400 --> 00:14:31.590 And there were many pieces of art 00:14:31.590 --> 00:14:34.310 and ceramics and things of this tree stump 00:14:34.310 --> 00:14:36.840 because the Jewish people had been cut off. 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:40.770 There's a symbol in Jewish life of we have a tree of life. 00:14:40.770 --> 00:14:44.300 And that's really what that sort of abstract tree in the middle 00:14:44.300 --> 00:14:48.080 was, very much to represent the reflowering 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.626 of the Jewish community after the Holocaust. 00:14:50.626 --> 00:14:52.700 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:15:02.450 --> 00:15:05.030 DALIYA JOKONDO: I put this door here because growing up 00:15:05.030 --> 00:15:06.500 I had a lot of-- 00:15:06.500 --> 00:15:12.470 I did a lot of eavesdropping to learn about my background. 00:15:12.470 --> 00:15:16.430 We used to have a lot of different political or social or 00:15:16.430 --> 00:15:18.930 military kind of gatherings at my house growing up, 00:15:18.930 --> 00:15:21.980 and all the men would gather into one room and close the door 00:15:21.980 --> 00:15:23.675 and they'd be like smoking and hush, 00:15:23.675 --> 00:15:25.550 hush tones and whatnot into the night talking 00:15:25.550 --> 00:15:26.508 about different things. 00:15:26.508 --> 00:15:29.360 And I would like either peek into the doors open. 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.725 And at some point, I actually-- my bedroom 00:15:31.725 --> 00:15:33.350 was right next to the living room where 00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:34.400 they had these meetings, and there 00:15:34.400 --> 00:15:35.970 was a little hole in the wall. 00:15:35.970 --> 00:15:39.200 So I would just try to see through the whole listening 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:40.410 to see what's going on. 00:15:40.410 --> 00:15:42.260 And I painted the background really red 00:15:42.260 --> 00:15:45.020 because they would talk about some horrific things 00:15:45.020 --> 00:15:46.980 and about different people dying. 00:15:46.980 --> 00:15:49.350 It's always like just so much bloodshed. 00:15:49.350 --> 00:15:53.600 These here are funeral posts. 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:58.160 I put them there because it just represents all the people that 00:15:58.160 --> 00:16:01.970 have died, including my own family members in this conflict 00:16:01.970 --> 00:16:03.500 over the years. 00:16:03.500 --> 00:16:06.080 And I put the church there because that church 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:07.770 is a very central church. 00:16:07.770 --> 00:16:10.730 The city is largely Catholic, like my entire family 00:16:10.730 --> 00:16:14.185 is very Catholic and very into their Catholic faith. 00:16:14.185 --> 00:16:16.560 So it was very important for me to put that church there, 00:16:16.560 --> 00:16:19.370 because most of the photos that we had from coming from home 00:16:19.370 --> 00:16:21.720 had my family members standing in front of this church. 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:23.750 So it's a very intricate part. 00:16:23.750 --> 00:16:27.140 And these here are crosses, like the ones 00:16:27.140 --> 00:16:28.800 you would find in a graveyard. 00:16:28.800 --> 00:16:30.670 And at the same time, different photographs 00:16:30.670 --> 00:16:32.670 that I have at home of different family members, 00:16:32.670 --> 00:16:34.970 like my grandfather on my father's side, 00:16:34.970 --> 00:16:38.750 or some uncles or whatnot have, like, crosses on their forehead. 00:16:38.750 --> 00:16:40.750 We have this tradition where when somebody dies, 00:16:40.750 --> 00:16:42.780 you go back into your family photos 00:16:42.780 --> 00:16:45.160 and you just mark all of them with the cross. 00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:47.940 So then it just signals that they have passed on. 00:16:47.940 --> 00:16:50.640 I have an immense fear of bees because I 00:16:50.640 --> 00:16:52.450 don't know how old I was and at this point, 00:16:52.450 --> 00:16:55.110 I'm not sure if I was there, but it's a very intense memory 00:16:55.110 --> 00:16:58.230 where we were traveling from one town 00:16:58.230 --> 00:17:00.100 to the next for whatever reason. 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:02.100 It wasn't during conflict times, we were just 00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:03.580 passing through somewhere. 00:17:03.580 --> 00:17:06.569 We passed by a bee farm and something happened in the bee 00:17:06.569 --> 00:17:09.300 farm and all the bees woke up and they came out swarming 00:17:09.300 --> 00:17:10.599 and they attacked. 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:12.839 And my mother covered me and my sister 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:15.510 and my aunt underneath this really thick blanket 00:17:15.510 --> 00:17:18.609 until they could settle down and swarm and go away or whatever. 00:17:18.609 --> 00:17:20.819 But some people actually died from the Bee stings 00:17:20.819 --> 00:17:24.869 because they just got bit so horribly. 00:17:24.869 --> 00:17:29.100 There's a story where one night when my mother was still 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:31.750 pregnant with me, it was pretty late term. 00:17:31.750 --> 00:17:33.880 I'm thinking seven or eight months or something. 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:35.480 I think it was the militia group, 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:37.660 but we were not clear if it was the militia group 00:17:37.660 --> 00:17:39.910 or it was actually like the Sudanese government, which 00:17:39.910 --> 00:17:41.702 is the North, which we're fighting against. 00:17:41.702 --> 00:17:44.800 They came in and attacked and what people would do 00:17:44.800 --> 00:17:46.330 is they would flee into what we call 00:17:46.330 --> 00:17:48.250 the bush, which is just like you flee into the forest 00:17:48.250 --> 00:17:48.950 and whatnot. 00:17:48.950 --> 00:17:51.760 And midway through the fleeing, my mother 00:17:51.760 --> 00:17:54.530 got stopped by a truck of soldiers. 00:17:54.530 --> 00:17:56.630 And if you ever seen on the news, 00:17:56.630 --> 00:17:59.590 they drive in this big pickup truck things 00:17:59.590 --> 00:18:01.360 and they mount their machinery on there 00:18:01.360 --> 00:18:04.883 and they all carry like their AK47s or whatever. 00:18:04.883 --> 00:18:07.300 And like they stopped this woman in the middle of the road 00:18:07.300 --> 00:18:08.143 and she's pregnant. 00:18:08.143 --> 00:18:09.560 And they were like about to shoot. 00:18:09.560 --> 00:18:12.020 And she kept like begging for her life, not to shoot. 00:18:12.020 --> 00:18:15.830 And one of the soldiers or militiamen recognized her voice, 00:18:15.830 --> 00:18:17.830 and apparently, they had gone to school together 00:18:17.830 --> 00:18:19.190 or were friends at some point. 00:18:19.190 --> 00:18:21.200 And he convinced them not to shoot. 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:22.250 And they let her go. 00:18:22.250 --> 00:18:24.490 And I almost felt like I was there 00:18:24.490 --> 00:18:28.130 because I had nightmares growing up in, these dreams. 00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:31.930 And I would have really frightening physical reactions 00:18:31.930 --> 00:18:33.800 when I have scenes that mimic that. 00:18:33.800 --> 00:18:35.937 So I try not to watch the news too much, 00:18:35.937 --> 00:18:37.520 which is interesting because I watch-- 00:18:37.520 --> 00:18:39.100 I could watch like Rambo, but I won't 00:18:39.100 --> 00:18:42.042 watch things that would trigger that kind of memory. 00:18:42.042 --> 00:18:44.000 And then years later, when I finally asked her, 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:48.250 she was like, you were not even out of the womb yet, so-- 00:18:48.250 --> 00:18:49.990 MAN: You were kind of there. 00:18:49.990 --> 00:18:53.358 DALIYA JOKONDO: Yeah, I suppose. 00:18:53.358 --> 00:18:56.800 [MUSIC PLAYING] 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:03.190 NARRATOR: Voiced vision rests on the premise that visual language 00:19:03.190 --> 00:19:06.520 captures an element of the human experience that words alone 00:19:06.520 --> 00:19:08.440 cannot. 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:11.230 Perhaps it is true that history is more fully 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:14.805 communicated through art rather than through the written word. 00:19:14.805 --> 00:19:19.514 [MUSIC PLAYING]